Tuesday, May 26, 2009

Creation: What is created, what is it's purpose and what is it's cause?

Once again I return to thinking and relaying that thought process to you the readers. You must forgive me for misinforming you on something that I said in my last post on morality. I stated that my next post would be on the topic of Who created God? When actually the topic is creation, cause and purpose. I will discuss Who created God, on my next post.

In many of my debates or past debates I have had with Atheist/Darwinist about God was the matter of cause and purpose and of course creation. Now, I have been challenged many times by Atheists to debate but lately I have turned many of them down, reason being, that they have no reason. They are illogical and basically a waste of effort or time. Now, I will make an exception from time to time, but not often. So, if you ever find yourself in a debate with me consider yourself blessed. :) Let's get started shall we?



Creation: What is created, what is it's purpose and what is it's cause?


Now I find myself perplexed at the many answers I receive from Darwinist or Atheists on this matter because the answers themselves indicate a failed reason or logic within the mind of the individual giving the answers. When I ask for them to name me one thing that is not created. Can you answer that question? Name me one thing that has no creator, it doesn't have to be a intelligent creator, and the objects do not have to be alive and breathing. For example, the color red and yellow make Orange. Red does not know that it makes orange with yellow, and neither does yellow and Orange does not know that red and yellow create it. I gave that same example to an Atheist/Darwinist in a little different analogy. I added into the equation that if you left a lump of red clay and yellow clay in a room, what are the odds of that clay creating orange all by itself in one million years? His answer was this.."None, but what if the room was spinning? Then the odds are better." Well, yes of course but that is a lot of spinning and lets say that whatever formed the universe from the big bang was spinning, then that would defy the laws of the conservation of angular momentum. (The Conservation of Angular Momentum is basically this..in layman's terms, lets say that you have a top, and this top has small pennies on it, now when you spin the top the pennies come flying off and all rotate within the same direction of the top.)Because when you look at the planets like Venus it spins in the opposite direction. So that is contradicting the idea of a spinning room, because if the universe was a room and spinning, then Venus would not spin in the direction it spins in. His response.."Well, well between the big bang and the formation of the universe is 9.2 billion years, anything can happen between that time." Wait a minute here. Am I to believe that the big bang is fact and Venus spins in the opposite direction because "anything can happen." ??? Why is it that when a Christian speaks about God and miracles, the Atheist mock them? But when they say.."Well anything can happen." Is that not a belief in a miracle as well? Anything can happen? You mean like a miracle that Venus decided to spin backwards all by itself without any guidance? Illogical. Here's a response I read to that question as to why does Venus spin backwards.

"No one knows for sure, but they think that a very large asteroid many years ago crashed into it sending it spinning backwards. Since it's going against it's gravity and original spin, it spins very slowly and a day on Venus is longer than a year. There are many theories about it, but that's the most popular theory. It did in fact start by spinning normally." May

Now, lets take apart this answer shall we? First she says, "No one knows for sure, but they think that a very large asteroid many years ago crashed into it sending it spinning backwards." Okay now she is admitting that no one really knows. So to assume that an asteroid hit Venus is possible but there must be evidence, in which they haven't found. So, that theory is a guess. Can we believe it? No, because it's not fact. Then she goes on to say.."Since it's GOING AGAINST IT'S GRAVITY and ORIGINAL SPIN, it spins very slowly and a day on Venus is longer than a year." Okay, what she says here is a half truth and the rest is speculation. Yes, a day on Venus is longer than a year here, that is observed. BUT..she also states that Venus is GOING AGAINST IT'S GRAVITY and ORIGINAL SPIN. Question, how does she know what the gravity on Venus is like when no one has ever been there? And how does she know how it spun ORIGINALLY since she was not present nor was anyone else present when it first originally spun? So, she goes from a guess, to attempting to provide facts and does so falsely. Now to the rest of her statement. "There are many theories about it but that's the most popular theory." Yes, and the most popular theory amongst scientist was that the coelacanth was extinct until one was found, so what's the most popular amongst scientist isn't always the right theory. Finally she ends with this.."It did in fact start by spinning normally." And she knows this how? So, as we see it went from an assumption to a fact. They have bigger problems than cat stuck in a dog pound. So, they can't answer the question of naming one thing that is not created. One answer I received was this. "The Universe, is not created." The problem here is that how do they know? Here's another problem for Darwinist. Created things are formulated, created things have working parts to them. Created things are formed by objects. For example if you had a watch with all it's parts in a box, would it be a watch or just parts of a watch? It would be parts of a watch because together these parts make a watch, they create a watch. Without these parts is there a watch? No. So the Universe consists of matter, energy, planets, stars. Those things make up the Universe, the Universe consists of these things. When I made that statement,the reply to that from an Atheist was this..."No, the Universe does not consist of those things it contains them!" Now, I put the exclamation point there because this young lady was actually irritated with me for making that true statement and she had to reply with a stupid answer because if not then she would have to admit I'm right.
Here's the problem with her statement. "No, the Universe does not consist of those things it contains them!" Let's look in the dictionary shall we for the definition of the word consist.

Ready for this?
con⋅sist: to be made up or composed. to be comprised or CONTAINED.

Let's look in a Thesaurus.
Main Entry: consist
Part of Speech: verb
Definition: exist, reside
Synonyms: abide, be, be CONTAINED in, be expressed by, be found in, dwell, inhere, lie, repose, rest, subsist

So what this young lady basically told me is. "No the Universe does not consists of these things it consists of these things!" So this boils down to semantics, in which we will get into in a later post, where I will talk about words and their meanings according to Atheist/Darwinist. But anyway, do you see her logic? No? Neither do I because it's illogical that means there is no logic to her reply. They real reason she made that very dumb statement was because she HAD to disagree with me, because she could not admit that a God fearing Christian was right. That's why.

So, it is correct or a fact that the universe is created, why? Because created things are formed. Now, an Atheist/Darwinist would lead you to believe that formed objects happen by accident. So, that defeats the purpose of them. Atheist and Darwinist are faced with this problem, nothing is created because it all happen by chance or accident. Since the Universe is a entity that is not conscious, then anything that is not conscious can be put together by accident or by chance, and then the Atheists and Darwinist will take this one step further, since a non living entity can be created by accident or chance, then so can a living entity. Even tho the odds are mathematically against them, they believe this to be fact.




Purpose

I was asked recently by an Atheist.."What about space? (empty space) That ("that" being empty space) is not created and it has no purpose." My answer to him was that of course empty space is created. If you took all the matter and energy out of the Universe you would have a void, an empty space. Would that space be there if all the matter and energy were present? No. Space is created by subtracting. Ever hear someone say.."Let's create some space here." ?? Space is created. It's purpose? To be free of matter and energy, to be space. Without a void there is no fullness or occupation. So the purpose of space is to be present for occupation, or fullness, or filled. So then everything has a purpose. Life has a purpose, we as individuals have a purpose. If you were an Atheist, then nothing has purpose because nothing is created and therefor there is no cause for our presence.


Christ is the cause of our existence, He is the creator who gives us purpose. It's simple logic that Atheist/Darwinist are void of. Now, for my next post I will discuss the question that everyone asked at one time in their lives. Who created God?

God bless...

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